1 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:09,379 hi so I'm Lawrence Tyler I am just 2 00:00:13,190 --> 00:00:11,250 beginning my second year as a postdoc at 3 00:00:15,499 --> 00:00:13,200 Michigan State University working with 4 00:00:18,260 --> 00:00:15,509 Matt shrink and I'd like to talk to you 5 00:00:20,390 --> 00:00:18,270 today about using metabolomics to look 6 00:00:22,099 --> 00:00:20,400 at metabolic processes and surprising 7 00:00:24,740 --> 00:00:22,109 environments I'm very excited to be 8 00:00:26,390 --> 00:00:24,750 kicking off the rocks session and also 9 00:00:27,830 --> 00:00:26,400 to be introducing you to surprising 10 00:00:29,089 --> 00:00:27,840 environment a couple of people in this 11 00:00:31,099 --> 00:00:29,099 session are going to be talking about 12 00:00:32,749 --> 00:00:31,109 them so it's pretty cool that I get to 13 00:00:36,110 --> 00:00:32,759 introduce the topic to you if you're not 14 00:00:37,790 --> 00:00:36,120 very familiar with it so serpenton 15 00:00:40,010 --> 00:00:37,800 ization is the process by which this 16 00:00:43,700 --> 00:00:40,020 really pretty green rock turns into this 17 00:00:45,590 --> 00:00:43,710 really ugly black rock basically what 18 00:00:47,959 --> 00:00:45,600 that means is that the mineral olivene 19 00:00:51,740 --> 00:00:47,969 reacts with water and produces 20 00:00:53,060 --> 00:00:51,750 serpentine minerals as well as a high 21 00:00:55,580 --> 00:00:53,070 amounts of hydrogen so it creates a very 22 00:00:58,250 --> 00:00:55,590 high ph environment energy in the form 23 00:01:01,849 --> 00:00:58,260 of methane and also these small organics 24 00:01:04,100 --> 00:01:01,859 which can be food for microorganisms so 25 00:01:06,020 --> 00:01:04,110 it creates this really incredible 26 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:06,030 environment where it's very extreme 27 00:01:10,039 --> 00:01:08,250 there's very low amount of dissolved 28 00:01:13,130 --> 00:01:10,049 inorganic carbon available because it 29 00:01:14,510 --> 00:01:13,140 all precipitates as calcite and very 30 00:01:16,100 --> 00:01:14,520 high p age but there's all these 31 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:16,110 organics and there's all this energy 32 00:01:19,609 --> 00:01:18,090 available for microbes to harness so 33 00:01:23,630 --> 00:01:19,619 it's a very extreme environment but with 34 00:01:25,700 --> 00:01:23,640 a lot of opportunities for microbes also 35 00:01:28,969 --> 00:01:25,710 it is interesting because not only was 36 00:01:31,130 --> 00:01:28,979 it very prevalent on early Earth but 37 00:01:32,630 --> 00:01:31,140 it's also very likely that surprising 38 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:32,640 environments exist in the subsurface of 39 00:01:37,010 --> 00:01:34,650 Mars and fuel hydrothermal environments 40 00:01:40,910 --> 00:01:37,020 on icy worlds like Europa and Enceladus 41 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:40,920 and there are a number of origin of life 42 00:01:44,749 --> 00:01:42,570 theories that implicates or penalizing 43 00:01:47,450 --> 00:01:44,759 environments because they create these 44 00:01:52,389 --> 00:01:47,460 high-energy environments with gradients 45 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:52,399 that can be harnessed by early life so 46 00:01:57,590 --> 00:01:54,570 there are a number of different 47 00:01:59,270 --> 00:01:57,600 serpenton izing environments all over 48 00:02:01,190 --> 00:01:59,280 the globe that our lab studies but I'm 49 00:02:03,770 --> 00:02:01,200 going to focus on the Coast Range 50 00:02:05,149 --> 00:02:03,780 ophiolite microbial observatory it's a 51 00:02:09,979 --> 00:02:05,159 nice place to work because it's just 52 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:09,989 north of napa so you know drunk science 53 00:02:13,550 --> 00:02:11,250 but anyway 54 00:02:15,890 --> 00:02:13,560 there's two sites that we work at here 55 00:02:18,260 --> 00:02:15,900 at chromel the quarry valley and the 56 00:02:20,300 --> 00:02:18,270 core shed well and I'm going to be 57 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:20,310 talking about some microbes isolated 58 00:02:25,790 --> 00:02:23,610 from quarry valley we have six wells dug 59 00:02:27,740 --> 00:02:25,800 at quarry valley and another six tug at 60 00:02:33,170 --> 00:02:27,750 the core shed well and they are highly 61 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:33,180 alkaline and that's the drill rig that 62 00:02:39,620 --> 00:02:35,370 was used to drill these wells with just 63 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:39,630 a few years ago so we have a ton of 16s 64 00:02:43,370 --> 00:02:41,490 data from these wells we have a pretty 65 00:02:44,930 --> 00:02:43,380 good idea of what kind of microbes are 66 00:02:46,940 --> 00:02:44,940 living in these highly alkaline 67 00:02:49,070 --> 00:02:46,950 environments and as you might suspect 68 00:02:52,190 --> 00:02:49,080 they're not very diverse because it is a 69 00:02:54,290 --> 00:02:52,200 very extreme environment um but we do 70 00:02:56,210 --> 00:02:54,300 see some trends associated with pH 71 00:02:59,300 --> 00:02:56,220 certain groups show up in the higher pH 72 00:03:01,100 --> 00:02:59,310 wells and versus the lower pH 12 I'm not 73 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:01,110 going to focus on any of that today at 74 00:03:04,580 --> 00:03:03,090 all I'm not interested in who's there 75 00:03:06,890 --> 00:03:04,590 I'm interested in what they're doing and 76 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:06,900 in an environment like this it's very 77 00:03:12,229 --> 00:03:09,810 difficult to distinguish between biotic 78 00:03:13,640 --> 00:03:12,239 and abiotic processes these reactions 79 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:13,650 occurring between minerals and water 80 00:03:18,259 --> 00:03:15,570 producing organics producing methane 81 00:03:20,750 --> 00:03:18,269 microbes produce organics and methane so 82 00:03:22,940 --> 00:03:20,760 it's difficult for us to figure out 83 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:22,950 what's going on at the geological level 84 00:03:26,509 --> 00:03:24,330 and what's going on at the biological 85 00:03:27,949 --> 00:03:26,519 level and it's very likely that microbes 86 00:03:29,449 --> 00:03:27,959 are feeding off of these geologic 87 00:03:34,789 --> 00:03:29,459 processes so there's a very gray area 88 00:03:36,410 --> 00:03:34,799 here so that's where a technique like 89 00:03:39,140 --> 00:03:36,420 metabolomics comes into play 90 00:03:41,569 --> 00:03:39,150 metabolomics basically is a snapshot of 91 00:03:43,789 --> 00:03:41,579 the metabolic activity of a microbe it 92 00:03:45,890 --> 00:03:43,799 takes all of the small organics that 93 00:03:47,509 --> 00:03:45,900 microbes are producing and looks at them 94 00:03:49,430 --> 00:03:47,519 at the chemical level to try to figure 95 00:03:53,390 --> 00:03:49,440 out what metabolic processes are 96 00:03:55,009 --> 00:03:53,400 occurring in the cell and this technique 97 00:03:57,340 --> 00:03:55,019 can be used for a number of different 98 00:04:00,110 --> 00:03:57,350 applications we can figure out whoops 99 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:00,120 got ahead of myself we can figure out 100 00:04:05,420 --> 00:04:02,130 what chemicals are being produced by the 101 00:04:08,539 --> 00:04:05,430 cells obviously um we can annotate 102 00:04:12,319 --> 00:04:08,549 enzymes based on what is being produced 103 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:12,329 we can look at pathways we can figure 104 00:04:16,670 --> 00:04:13,890 out what metabolic processes are 105 00:04:18,860 --> 00:04:16,680 occurring we can even phenotype 106 00:04:19,789 --> 00:04:18,870 different cells that we can't different 107 00:04:21,770 --> 00:04:19,799 organisms that we can't necessarily 108 00:04:24,430 --> 00:04:21,780 culture in the lab so this is all very 109 00:04:25,900 --> 00:04:24,440 useful right 110 00:04:27,910 --> 00:04:25,910 but there are some caveats of course 111 00:04:29,740 --> 00:04:27,920 just like with every technique first of 112 00:04:30,700 --> 00:04:29,750 all no extraction method is ideal so 113 00:04:31,990 --> 00:04:30,710 especially if you're doing a nun 114 00:04:33,910 --> 00:04:32,000 targeted approach and you want to look 115 00:04:37,900 --> 00:04:33,920 at all of the metabolites being produced 116 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:37,910 by microbes now no extraction method is 117 00:04:40,780 --> 00:04:39,530 going to get every single metabolite 118 00:04:43,780 --> 00:04:40,790 there's always going to be some bias 119 00:04:46,180 --> 00:04:43,790 involved there's a bunch of different 120 00:04:48,460 --> 00:04:46,190 ways to analyze the metabolites once 121 00:04:50,380 --> 00:04:48,470 you've extracted them we use a liquid 122 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:50,390 chromatography mass spec but you can 123 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:53,210 also use GC you can use NMR and each one 124 00:04:57,190 --> 00:04:55,970 of those methods has its own perks and 125 00:05:01,180 --> 00:04:57,200 drawbacks which I'm not going to get 126 00:05:03,130 --> 00:05:01,190 into right now so the way that we 127 00:05:05,470 --> 00:05:03,140 characterize each of these compounds 128 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:05,480 once we've extracted them is looking at 129 00:05:11,410 --> 00:05:07,210 the mass-to-charge ratio and the 130 00:05:13,660 --> 00:05:11,420 retention time in the column but that 131 00:05:15,220 --> 00:05:13,670 can vary depending on your methodology 132 00:05:16,780 --> 00:05:15,230 right so if you're trying to 133 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:16,790 characterize a compound based on these 134 00:05:20,230 --> 00:05:18,410 things and it varies from method to 135 00:05:21,790 --> 00:05:20,240 method then one person will get 136 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:21,800 completely different results from yours 137 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:25,490 in another lab it only provides 138 00:05:28,870 --> 00:05:27,530 potential chemical formula and is this 139 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:28,880 is especially a problem if you're 140 00:05:34,540 --> 00:05:31,250 looking at really big molecules because 141 00:05:36,220 --> 00:05:34,550 you get these results where you have a 142 00:05:37,659 --> 00:05:36,230 code cake and have so many carbon atoms 143 00:05:39,730 --> 00:05:37,669 and it's so many nitrogen atoms and it's 144 00:05:42,130 --> 00:05:39,740 so many oxygen atoms the bigger molecule 145 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:42,140 is the more potential possibilities 146 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:44,330 there are for that molecules identity up 147 00:05:50,230 --> 00:05:46,490 to thousands of potential identities 148 00:05:52,570 --> 00:05:50,240 right stable isotope waving labeling can 149 00:05:55,510 --> 00:05:52,580 help constrain that so if you feed 150 00:05:57,400 --> 00:05:55,520 microbes with saying 14c that will help 151 00:05:59,140 --> 00:05:57,410 you constrain it at least how many 152 00:06:02,440 --> 00:05:59,150 carbon atoms are in the molecule which 153 00:06:03,850 --> 00:06:02,450 narrows things down quite a bit and 154 00:06:06,430 --> 00:06:03,860 obviously we haven't identified every 155 00:06:09,190 --> 00:06:06,440 single metabolites that exists there's a 156 00:06:10,990 --> 00:06:09,200 lot of them um and there's a lot of what 157 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:11,000 we call unknown unknowns we don't know 158 00:06:16,110 --> 00:06:12,770 that it's there and we don't know what 159 00:06:18,100 --> 00:06:16,120 it is so that's also an issue but 160 00:06:19,930 --> 00:06:18,110 databases are currently being developed 161 00:06:23,260 --> 00:06:19,940 and they're constantly being added to 162 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:23,270 and work like this helps enhance the 163 00:06:27,700 --> 00:06:26,570 development of these databases so a 164 00:06:29,530 --> 00:06:27,710 technique like this is a lot more 165 00:06:31,870 --> 00:06:29,540 powerful when you combine it with other 166 00:06:33,850 --> 00:06:31,880 molecular techniques like genomics or 167 00:06:35,770 --> 00:06:33,860 transcriptomics if you know what genes 168 00:06:38,380 --> 00:06:35,780 microbes have or what genes that 169 00:06:40,510 --> 00:06:38,390 currently have turned on then you can 170 00:06:42,430 --> 00:06:40,520 kind of guess it at least what metabolic 171 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:42,440 processes are occurring and then use 172 00:06:46,870 --> 00:06:44,810 that to inform your identification of 173 00:06:48,790 --> 00:06:46,880 all the metabolites and vice versa if 174 00:06:50,410 --> 00:06:48,800 you see certain metabolites that are 175 00:06:52,150 --> 00:06:50,420 being produced you can say okay well I 176 00:06:54,850 --> 00:06:52,160 know certain metabolic processes are 177 00:06:56,890 --> 00:06:54,860 currently occurring so metabolomics can 178 00:06:59,620 --> 00:06:56,900 also help you annotate a genome or a 179 00:07:01,210 --> 00:06:59,630 transcript on so this is what the data 180 00:07:04,090 --> 00:07:01,220 looks like coming out the other side of 181 00:07:05,710 --> 00:07:04,100 the LCMS we use tandem liquid 182 00:07:08,170 --> 00:07:05,720 chromatography mass spec can bind with 183 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:08,180 quadrupole time-of-flight if you don't 184 00:07:11,050 --> 00:07:09,530 know what that is don't worry about it 185 00:07:13,570 --> 00:07:11,060 but this is what the data looks like and 186 00:07:16,270 --> 00:07:13,580 each one of these Peaks represents an 187 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:16,280 individual metabolites that we can pull 188 00:07:21,870 --> 00:07:20,090 out and try to identify um it's not very 189 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:21,880 informative to look at this though right 190 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:27,290 so this is a tree of a number of 191 00:07:32,980 --> 00:07:30,410 isolates that we have from chrome oh and 192 00:07:34,270 --> 00:07:32,990 I know every time I see a phylogenetic 193 00:07:35,470 --> 00:07:34,280 tree and a talk my eyes start to glaze 194 00:07:36,970 --> 00:07:35,480 over because this is a lot of 195 00:07:39,310 --> 00:07:36,980 information and it doesn't really mean 196 00:07:41,050 --> 00:07:39,320 much but I want you to focus on these 197 00:07:43,780 --> 00:07:41,060 two isolates over here but we're 198 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:43,790 isolated from quarry valley 11 well 199 00:07:49,060 --> 00:07:47,930 which has a pH of about 11.5 and the 200 00:07:51,370 --> 00:07:49,070 reason why it's important is because 201 00:07:52,990 --> 00:07:51,380 it's they're both very closely related 202 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:53,000 to each other but they're also closely 203 00:07:57,850 --> 00:07:55,250 related to bacillus su de formas which 204 00:07:59,800 --> 00:07:57,860 is a very well-known alkyl o file that's 205 00:08:02,110 --> 00:07:59,810 pretty well characterized so we decided 206 00:08:04,390 --> 00:08:02,120 to focus on these two isolates for now 207 00:08:06,850 --> 00:08:04,400 because it they're so closely related to 208 00:08:08,950 --> 00:08:06,860 a microbe that's genome has been a 209 00:08:11,020 --> 00:08:08,960 sequenced that we know quite a bit about 210 00:08:13,750 --> 00:08:11,030 and what its preferences are when we're 211 00:08:16,690 --> 00:08:13,760 trying to grow it in the lab so I grew 212 00:08:18,430 --> 00:08:16,700 these two isolates and as you can see by 213 00:08:19,780 --> 00:08:18,440 the growth curves it's a pretty standard 214 00:08:21,250 --> 00:08:19,790 growth curve we have your exponential 215 00:08:23,350 --> 00:08:21,260 phase here where the cells are very 216 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:23,360 actively growing and dividing and then 217 00:08:26,860 --> 00:08:24,890 they just kind of plateau off here at 218 00:08:28,930 --> 00:08:26,870 the stationary phase where you have the 219 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:28,940 same number of cells being produced as 220 00:08:37,300 --> 00:08:32,810 are dying so I what's interesting here 221 00:08:39,070 --> 00:08:37,310 is that the number one isolate takes off 222 00:08:42,070 --> 00:08:39,080 pretty rapidly but then number two even 223 00:08:43,630 --> 00:08:42,080 though it's very simple costly related 224 00:08:44,770 --> 00:08:43,640 to number one has kind of a different 225 00:08:46,570 --> 00:08:44,780 growth pattern here so it has this 226 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:46,580 little dip in the beginning and then it 227 00:08:51,570 --> 00:08:49,130 goes in an exponential phase so we 228 00:08:53,370 --> 00:08:51,580 decided to look at this 229 00:08:54,540 --> 00:08:53,380 or if our the exponential phase on the 230 00:08:56,580 --> 00:08:54,550 stationary phase of both of these 231 00:08:58,230 --> 00:08:56,590 isolates and compare the metabolites 232 00:09:00,330 --> 00:08:58,240 being produced by both of these isolates 233 00:09:03,090 --> 00:09:00,340 to see if they're using different 234 00:09:06,870 --> 00:09:03,100 strategies to adapt to this highly 235 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:06,880 alkaline environment and what we found 236 00:09:11,390 --> 00:09:09,490 is that this is a PCA plot of the total 237 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:11,400 metabolites of each one of these 238 00:09:17,310 --> 00:09:15,970 cultures and you can see that the 239 00:09:18,900 --> 00:09:17,320 stationary phase of both of these 240 00:09:21,540 --> 00:09:18,910 isolates clumps pretty closely together 241 00:09:23,910 --> 00:09:21,550 but they are distinct from each other I 242 00:09:25,170 --> 00:09:23,920 likewise for the exponential phase and 243 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:25,180 then our blank is all the way over here 244 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:28,930 which is always nice so we know I have 245 00:09:35,490 --> 00:09:33,370 good clean controls here so the cool 246 00:09:36,930 --> 00:09:35,500 thing is that we can look at individual 247 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:36,940 peaks and look at their relative 248 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:38,650 abundance between all of our different 249 00:09:43,110 --> 00:09:40,330 samples and you can see that there's 250 00:09:45,030 --> 00:09:43,120 certain compounds that are present only 251 00:09:47,070 --> 00:09:45,040 in the exponential phase of both of 252 00:09:49,230 --> 00:09:47,080 these isolates or only in the stationary 253 00:09:51,690 --> 00:09:49,240 phase and then there's ones that show up 254 00:09:53,850 --> 00:09:51,700 only for example in the number two 255 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:53,860 culture but not in number one at either 256 00:09:57,960 --> 00:09:56,290 phase of growth so that's kind of neat 257 00:10:00,270 --> 00:09:57,970 and then there's also compounds that 258 00:10:04,170 --> 00:10:00,280 only show up during one phase of growth 259 00:10:06,330 --> 00:10:04,180 in one isolate so all of these compounds 260 00:10:07,500 --> 00:10:06,340 are distinguishing between these 261 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:07,510 different isolates at their different 262 00:10:12,630 --> 00:10:10,330 phases of growth we can use them to look 263 00:10:15,690 --> 00:10:12,640 at what metabolic strategies are being 264 00:10:17,460 --> 00:10:15,700 used in these isolates we haven't 265 00:10:19,560 --> 00:10:17,470 identified these compounds yet and 266 00:10:21,930 --> 00:10:19,570 that's going to be an interesting 267 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:21,940 exercise because again they're very 268 00:10:25,830 --> 00:10:24,370 likely unknown unknowns if they were 269 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:25,840 very well known metabolites they'd 270 00:10:29,730 --> 00:10:28,330 probably be seen in all of the cells 271 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:29,740 because they're extremely common and 272 00:10:34,860 --> 00:10:32,890 very readily identified so we're going 273 00:10:36,270 --> 00:10:34,870 to start searching the databases and see 274 00:10:38,100 --> 00:10:36,280 what we can come up with but we also 275 00:10:40,260 --> 00:10:38,110 have transcriptomic data that we need to 276 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:40,270 analyze from these cultures and so we 277 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:42,250 can combine that with the metabolomic 278 00:10:46,500 --> 00:10:44,290 data to try to get it exactly what 279 00:10:48,330 --> 00:10:46,510 strategy these isolates are using to 280 00:10:52,350 --> 00:10:48,340 survive in this extremely alkyl and 281 00:10:53,910 --> 00:10:52,360 environment the thing about these 282 00:10:55,140 --> 00:10:53,920 bacillus cultures though is that they're 283 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:55,150 not really going to tell us a whole lot 284 00:10:59,390 --> 00:10:56,890 about what goes on in a serpentine izing 285 00:11:02,770 --> 00:10:59,400 environment because they're arif illic 286 00:11:05,050 --> 00:11:02,780 and because bacillus is a pretty 287 00:11:07,630 --> 00:11:05,060 an organism and its found basically all 288 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:07,640 over the place so we can start to 289 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:10,730 understand things about like alkyl alkyl 290 00:11:14,020 --> 00:11:13,010 0 tolerance tolerance of high pH but 291 00:11:15,670 --> 00:11:14,030 understanding some of the other 292 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:15,680 processes that occur in surprising 293 00:11:20,410 --> 00:11:18,050 environments looking at the bacillus is 294 00:11:23,500 --> 00:11:20,420 not going to be particularly useful so 295 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:23,510 we have this isolate mehsana bacterium 296 00:11:27,100 --> 00:11:25,490 subterranea which is not from a 297 00:11:28,990 --> 00:11:27,110 surprising environment but it's very 298 00:11:31,060 --> 00:11:29,000 closely related to organisms that we 299 00:11:33,310 --> 00:11:31,070 have identified in surprising 300 00:11:35,470 --> 00:11:33,320 environments including chroma this was 301 00:11:40,180 --> 00:11:35,480 actually isolated from a subterranean 302 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:40,190 aquifer I think in Sweden in 1998 it is 303 00:11:44,290 --> 00:11:41,810 alkyl Oh Phillip just like the bacillus 304 00:11:46,990 --> 00:11:44,300 cultures and halo halo tolerant it will 305 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:47,000 grow at a wide range of temperatures but 306 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:50,090 it's also a Miss Hannigan and it might 307 00:11:57,690 --> 00:11:54,490 convert formate co2 or both into methane 308 00:12:01,870 --> 00:11:57,700 so we started growing this in the lab 309 00:12:03,610 --> 00:12:01,880 anaerobically and there's a couple of 310 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:03,620 different carbon sources available in 311 00:12:06,910 --> 00:12:05,450 the medium I focus on for me and 312 00:12:08,950 --> 00:12:06,920 bicarbonate because they're implicated 313 00:12:12,940 --> 00:12:08,960 in the production of methane and i added 314 00:12:14,620 --> 00:12:12,950 a 13 c label bicarbonate and formate so 315 00:12:16,540 --> 00:12:14,630 I set up cultures where either the 316 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:16,550 bicarbonate or the formate was labeled 317 00:12:20,860 --> 00:12:18,530 with see 13 in the hopes of tracking 318 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:20,870 that into the metabolites and these were 319 00:12:25,030 --> 00:12:22,970 harvested during the exponential phase I 320 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:25,040 put a question mark here whoops because 321 00:12:30,430 --> 00:12:29,330 I'm not really sure if this was the 322 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:30,440 exponential phase we haven't established 323 00:12:34,510 --> 00:12:31,970 a very good growth curve for these 324 00:12:38,830 --> 00:12:34,520 because they clump a lot and it makes it 325 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:38,840 difficult to sell counts unfortunately 326 00:12:43,300 --> 00:12:40,850 we didn't get as meat of a distribution 327 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:43,310 here so the but the media looks an awful 328 00:12:48,220 --> 00:12:46,130 lot like blank media which means that if 329 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:48,230 these cells are producing extracellular 330 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:50,090 metabolites they're not as easily 331 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:51,530 distinguished from the rest of the media 332 00:12:57,250 --> 00:12:54,530 and also we couldn't really tell much of 333 00:12:58,930 --> 00:12:57,260 a difference between the cultures that 334 00:13:00,100 --> 00:12:58,940 were fed 13 c-labeled for meat and the 335 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:00,110 cultures that were fed 13 c-labeled 336 00:13:05,020 --> 00:13:02,450 acetate and this makes sense if you look 337 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:05,030 at the piece because if 13c label was 338 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:06,770 being incorporated into the metabolites 339 00:13:12,220 --> 00:13:09,410 you would see a distribution of various 340 00:13:15,300 --> 00:13:12,230 Peaks here like a spread where there's 341 00:13:16,710 --> 00:13:15,310 car compounds that kick that 342 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:16,720 incorporated some of the 13 c and 343 00:13:19,740 --> 00:13:18,490 there's ones that still have 12 see it 344 00:13:22,050 --> 00:13:19,750 doesn't look like any label has been 345 00:13:23,850 --> 00:13:22,060 incorporated here so all of the 13 c is 346 00:13:25,560 --> 00:13:23,860 probably going into the methane and not 347 00:13:27,450 --> 00:13:25,570 into the metabolites or at least most of 348 00:13:30,750 --> 00:13:27,460 it but again we can still see there's 349 00:13:34,590 --> 00:13:30,760 certain compounds that occur only in say 350 00:13:36,180 --> 00:13:34,600 the palate or only in the media so our 351 00:13:38,490 --> 00:13:36,190 next steps are to grow the bacillus in 352 00:13:40,860 --> 00:13:38,500 more defined media sequence the genome 353 00:13:42,750 --> 00:13:40,870 and also look at the transcriptome to 354 00:13:46,170 --> 00:13:42,760 try to tease apart what exactly is going 355 00:13:48,079 --> 00:13:46,180 on metabolically in those isolates but 356 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:48,089 also to take the Madonna bacterium and 357 00:13:51,990 --> 00:13:50,770 try feeding at 13 C acetate to see if 358 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:52,000 that is incorporated into the 359 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:54,130 metabolites trace the 13 c into the 360 00:13:57,570 --> 00:13:55,810 headspace gases to see if it's going 361 00:13:59,430 --> 00:13:57,580 into the methane from the older cultures 362 00:14:01,620 --> 00:13:59,440 it should be it's got to be going 363 00:14:03,870 --> 00:14:01,630 somewhere and also look at the 364 00:14:05,370 --> 00:14:03,880 transcriptome and hopefully develop a 365 00:14:07,530 --> 00:14:05,380 better growth curve we've been looking 366 00:14:09,660 --> 00:14:07,540 at protein assays as a substitute for 367 00:14:11,730 --> 00:14:09,670 doing direct cell counts and we're also 368 00:14:14,700 --> 00:14:11,740 working on doing field metabolomics on 369 00:14:16,230 --> 00:14:14,710 environmental samples from chroma so 370 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:16,240 with that I'm going to thank you for 371 00:14:24,530 --> 00:14:18,010 your attention and I'll take your 372 00:14:36,140 --> 00:14:32,850 questions for Lauren yep had a feeling 373 00:14:38,700 --> 00:14:36,150 you'd have one so I thought you have a 374 00:14:40,170 --> 00:14:38,710 abundant khammam honest and recycle Asia 375 00:14:42,630 --> 00:14:40,180 at the beginning when you sampled and 376 00:14:44,460 --> 00:14:42,640 look for the 16s mm-hmm did you also get 377 00:14:48,390 --> 00:14:44,470 to isolate those are in what type of 378 00:14:50,310 --> 00:14:48,400 media um in which in the some of the 379 00:15:00,540 --> 00:14:50,320 earlier the 60s Taylor slice you showed 380 00:15:03,150 --> 00:15:00,550 we're all the 16s of abundance they're 381 00:15:08,850 --> 00:15:03,160 up there okay you have so that pretty 382 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:08,860 much the Red Army yeah so um I believe 383 00:15:14,130 --> 00:15:11,770 some of these have been isolated I don't 384 00:15:15,660 --> 00:15:14,140 know what media we're currently growing 385 00:15:21,410 --> 00:15:15,670 them in so I've been focusing on the 386 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:21,420 bacillus but um if you look at the tree 387 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:24,370 we have a ton of isolates right now that 388 00:15:29,790 --> 00:15:26,410 we just haven't actively culture because 389 00:15:36,510 --> 00:15:29,800 there's just so many of them but that's